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    AMD ATi Radeon HD 5700 Series Preview

    AMD ATi Radeon HD 5700 Series Preview

    A new preview has been posted over at eTeknix

    With the recent release of the first fully DirectX 11 compatible graphics card, AMD have dealt a good first blow to nVidia, with the 5870 offering performance exceeding nVidias fastest single GPU card the GTX285 and the 5850 offering impressive performance for £100 less. However, high end cards are not where most purchasers will be [...]
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    The 5750 could be a good bargain. But i guess it will depend with what price will hit the retail stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buburuza72 View Post
    The 5750 could be a good bargain. But i guess it will depend with what price will hit the retail stores.
    I have updated this article with prices:

    Pre-Order prices are £115 to £120 for a 1GB 5750 and £130 to £145 for a 1GB 5770. With the minimal price difference of around £15 between the cheapest 5750 and 5770 it would be wise to go for the 5770, as it is unlikely that dormant stream processors and texture units on the 5750 could be unlocked and for such a small extra amount of cash not really worth the hassle of trying.

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    hi, you didn't mention the size of this card, btw do you know what midtowers can carry the radeon 5870?

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    Wow nice review, Saddens me how things like these are so expensive. My parents wouldnt ever let me get parts at this rate, why cant they b affordable and around the $20 NZD margin :P

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    What's the prices like in NZ then? Problem i have is shipping costs

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    Well 300 NZD and up, 300 being average video cards, like the one i have now, not good enough though =\
    Im lucky i even have a graphics card cuza my cheap parents :P

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    So around £140 which isn't too bad but depends on what card you want i guess.

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    You might think that but my parents dont XD

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    Nice review Andy.

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    Good review, much info about that card. I think i would buy 5770 in near future. I got 2 displays so i think Eyefinity would be good for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skessu View Post
    I got 2 displays so i think Eyefinity would be good for that.
    Eyefinity is a GPU killer. If not for playing it will be okay, if for playing a resolution such as 4000x1200 will be harsh on the 5770.
    Last edited by patheticcockroach; Sat 30th Jan 2010 at 02:05pm.

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    Well, if you can afford 3 decent LCD monitors for playing games, you should be able to afford a powerful GPU as well. Two 5870s Cross-Fired, for example. A lot of fellow simmers and virtual pilots use such setups and I'm pretty sure Eyefinity boosted ATI sales in that niche, but I don't like it much (even if I could afford it) - the frame of the monitors look like awful black "bars", especially in dim lighting condition, like if you're playing in the evening. It can be very distracting and unpleasant.

    A friend has two small, peripheral monitors, but he's an nVidia fan boy and can only use two at once - even though he would benefit from more working space with Eyefinity - he blatantly refuses to go ATI. Sigh...

    Sorry for the off-topic. Otherwise, based in TFlops only, the 5770 is a monster. Better than the 4870 and with about one third more bandwidth than my current 4770 (it should be around 960GFlops) - which was the link between the two generations. Impressive, really!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burdokva View Post
    Otherwise, based in TFlops only, the 5770 is a monster. Better than the 4870
    Well, as far as I remember from the benchmarks, the 5770 stands somewhere between the 4870 and the 4890 so yeah, your TFlops approach looks like pretty accurate on this one

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    In real world applications though (S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Skies, Crysis (under some settings), Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead) the 4870 beats the 5770 in FPSs based on benchmarks that I've seen. Although Catalyst 10.1 may have changed that, I haven't seen any updated benchmarks since it's release to see how they now compare. If you take into account power consumption though, the 5770 is better, especially when you consider DX11 on top of that.
    Last edited by Mlong128ir; Mon 1st Feb 2010 at 02:14am.

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    Even if it's slightly below the 4870, that's still very impressive for a firmly mid-level card. I could max out pretty much any game with max AA/AF at my monitor's native resolution (1280x1024) with that card.

    10.1 didn't bring any improvement for my 4770, but I remember a few months back when I bought it, it shipped with the beta driver (9.5). I can't remember 9.6, but 9.7 brought a huge improvement in performance. With the beta the card felt sluggish and barely faster then the x1650 I used before, with 9.7 it ripped it apart... Maybe 10.1 has big improvements for the 5xxx series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burdokva View Post
    Maybe 10.1 has big improvements for the 5xxx series?
    Nah, just +3% as per the release note. But if they do that every time this will end up being significant

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    The 5770 is amazing value. About to upgrade/refresh my hardware with a 5770 and Phenom II

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTA99 View Post
    The 5770 is amazing value. About to upgrade/refresh my hardware with a 5770 and Phenom II
    I really think the 5770 is the sweet spot this last ATI generation as far as price and performance go. And if it's not enough, somewhere down the line you can get another one for much less and use them in crossfire to make up the difference for not going with a 5850 or 5870.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mlong128ir View Post
    I really think the 5770 is the sweet spot this last ATI generation as far as price and performance go.
    Yeah that's the point of the series where perf/price seems best. The shortage on 5850 and 5870 helped that a bit though. Also, the 5870 will give you slightly better perf/watt.

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    I don't think the shortages helped out at all, people who could afford, wanted, and were willing to go for a 58xx card waited for them. People in that bracket know the performance advantages of the 58xx's and wouldn't settle for less since their overclocks and benchmarks would depend on it.

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    What I meant is, the 58XX got a worse perf/price ratio than the 5700 notably because of the shortage. AFAIK the prices of the 58XXs raised some time after their release. Otherwise it seems that ATI tried to keep a rather constant perf/price ratio on this series, since the 5970 was released @ just twice the price of the 5850, and it's performing just like 2 CrossFired 5850.

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    The 58xx were never as good as the 57xx's even at launch in price/performance when the pricing was less. The 5870 launched at $400, the 5700 at $160. More than double the price, significantly less than double the performance.

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