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Discussion in 'Cases and modifications' started by Michael Petersen, Nov 15, 2014.

  1. Michael Petersen

    Michael Petersen New Member

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    I know most of you will just say "PC part picker" but I don't want that kind of help. I want to build a hybrid system with an Intel CPU and an AMD GPU. What I need to know is what kind of compatibility issues can I expect if any, and should I just get a full tower so I will have room for the upgrades later on or should I get a mid tower and just get a bigger case later. (Not sure when I will be able to do an upgrade.)
     
  2. Djolovicl

    Djolovicl eTeknix Janitor Forum Mod

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    You will have no compatibility issues at all (this is not the 90's), and unless you are planning to put in some ginormous water cooling and big ass 75" fans, a decent midi tower will do the trick.

    P.S. If you want to know what i would pick right now, give us a budget and Ill make you a list.
     
  3. Michael Petersen

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    Not 100% on this yet but 500 dollars, do not need OS, HDD/SSD, or monitors.
     
  4. XANX

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    I have no clue about Intel CPUs and motherboards, but I'm sure you could get an R9 280X or R9 290 for pretty cheap after the holidays, definitely stuff to look out for.

    As for cases, you're probably fine with a mid-tower, unless you're really out to make a mad beast of a PC with tons of fans/radiators.
     
  5. Djolovicl

    Djolovicl eTeknix Janitor Forum Mod

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    Intel Core i3-4370 Haswell Dual-Core 3.8GHz LGA 1150 - around $160
    ASRock H97 Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H97 - some $80 to $85
    GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) - $70
    PowerColor AXR9 285 2GBD5-TDHE Radeon R9 285 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 - $210
    Cooler Master HAF 912 - (on sale) $60
    CORSAIR CX series CX750 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Corsair CP-9020015-NA Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready - $85

    Now, i do realize this is some $170 over your budget, but it gives you so much room for upgrades later. You can switch to i5 or i7 without any problems, you can add more RAM, upgrade your video card, and that PSU and chassis will last you really, really long time.

    Of course you can always go for a cheaper PSU 600W or less (i wouldn't do that) or a GPU, maybe r9 280x or 280 maybe as low as 270 and it would still be a decent little computer.
     
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  6. Rich Summers

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    Perhaps he could save a few bucks on the Power Supply. He wont need 750 for that build unless he adds a second GPU and a Drive or 2... You could run this set up on a 550 PSU, which you can pick up at The Egg for.... $35.00 by an asian company called GPC.. They are the manufactuering site for many of the big name brands sold in the industry, its there off label brand.. It will serve your needs for at least 1 year and you can save 50 bucks on the build. If you still need to reduce the cost of the build to pull it off, you can save 20-25 by going 4GB Ram save on the I3 3.8 for a 3.2 or 3.3 shave another 20-35 from that.. All 3 changes could reduce your build cost by up to $105.00.
     
  7. Djolovicl

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    Yeah, but decent PSU and chassis is something he can keep through next few builds so better to spend on them a bit more in the first build and then save money on them in the next few.
     
  8. Rich Summers

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    Well, I understand and completely agree with your line of thought.. I have come to learn over time and many builds for others, that for most of the people working with a budget at this level, tend to do better with a build that is barebones, and that they can replace components that are fairly simple to replace, over time, as they can afford it; and a Power supply is perfect choice swap out, same with the Memory, regarding the CPU... not so much... While I am the first to agree that my frame of mind is based on quite a bit of assumptions, in the end, the buyer will gravitate to the choices that they can afford. For this reason, bare-bones, is the most practical approach... Food for thought~!
     
  9. Djolovicl

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    I learned a hard lessons when one of my budget PSU's caught fire and the other one fried my motherboard, GPU and RAM. You invest in the thing that is supposed to keep the whole rig running, its always and i mean always money well spent.
     
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  10. Yudi Guntara

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    go full tower, for future upgrade hardcore
     
  11. Traveldog

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    I agree that the investment in a Power Supply is a very wise decision.
    What about the EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified 5 Year Warranty $64.99?
     
  12. Andreas Theodoulou

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    I had an AMD quad core balck box edition a few years ago. To be honest I wasnt very impressed with the performance. In the future when I am no longer unemployed and get to find a new job I would like to build a new pc from scratch.So I would appreciate people's advice , recommendations and help in buying new hardware.Starting with a CPU and then going onto other hardware. I have the OS already from my last system which is Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit edition. Can anybody give me some input ? My budget would probably be in the region of about 600 - 800 euros not more. Thanks in advance.
     
  13. Djolovicl

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    Same rig as i recommended to the OP, just buy i5 instead of i3 and GTX 970 instead of R9 285.
     
  14. BL8kes_7

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    This is a pretty nice and helpful comminity
     
  15. drazensi

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    is their any specific reason you want a intel cpu? because fx8320 is very cheap now, and beats intel's i3 procesors without a sweat..
    full or midi tower is a question of what kind of an upgrade you plan to make...if you will run single card always, then there's no need for a full tower, if you'r thinking of a sli or crossfire and multiple hard drives then go full...
    rather buy a good quality midi tower and a good solid psu..those are the most important thing in a pc...and of a good motherboard, especially if your thinking of overlocking....people often think that cases are not that important, but cable management and good cooling capabilites make a ton of difference....
    i would get a fx8320, r9 270x or 280 (price drops make it a very good choice), psu mentioned above, asrock 990fx extreme 3, decent midi tower case and a dual kit of RAM..
     
  16. realcapone

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    If you are going to run a single GPU, a 650Watts 80+ Certified is more than enough even with the latest GPUs available (Excluding the Titan Series).
     

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