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Discussion in 'Cases and modifications' started by David Beale, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. David Beale

    David Beale Member

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    Thinking of upgrading my HD6670 to a HD7870 or maybe the 7950 for a few dollars more I get 3GB v-ram, but I'm worried that any of the newer cards will not fit into my current case.

    By my measurement the longest card I could use would be 265mm (about 10 3/8") and few of the newer cards are that short. If they count the ports on the part of the card that sticks out the back of the case I might get a 270mm card into my box but it would be very tight.

    I did find a couple of HD7850's that came in at 265 and I could probably squeeze them in.

    BUT maybe this is the excuse I need to move up to a gamer's case. My current case is only a couple of years old - I tried to find a brand name on it but could not - it's a Newegg generic I guess? Works OK except for not taking these big honkin' cards.

    My m0therboard has USB 3.0 so a USB 3.0 port on the front would be nice.

    I'll have to keep my eye on specials and see what appeals to me.

    Any recommendations for someone shopping for their first case? Anything to avoid?
     
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  5. David Beale

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    Well after much deliberation and on line research finally pulled the trigger and ordered my new case.

    A Fractal Design Define R4 - the Titanium Windowed version.
    Going to load it with Cooler Master R4 red LED fans so I should have a nice warm red glow under my desk. I just found that the customer satisfaction with Fractal Design and the rave reviews for the R4 finally swayed my choice. The runner up was the Antec P280 with the Antec Eleven Hundred close behind. Both are bigger than the R4, but I think the R4 will be plenty big enough for my needs. Although smaller it is significantly heavier than the Antec products suggesting thicker steel and/or improved sound dampening materials. Newer style HDD cages and I like the fan controller on the front not the rear, but wish it had the Antec 270° swing on the door, and a third 5.25 bay would have been nice but I don't have any purpose for more than two right now. I did look seriously at the Define XL R2 which ironically was on sale for less than the R4 via one supplier, but the extra weight pushed the shipping costs up to 30% the cost of the case and made it slightly more than the R4 delivered, but it was just too big and heavy at 37 pounds empty I'd need to start weight training to be lifting that sucker up onto the table to work in it.

    So here are the lights
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    And here is the case
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    Will post pics of the build once I get going.

    Have not yet settled on the HD 7950/70 that I'll but upgrading to, but that's now my next project. One step up at a time.
     
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    Nice choice. Personally would have gone with Bitfenix Spectre pro fans, high CFM and quieter. I bought the CM fasns for my first build they died within a few weeks (LED's still worked, fans wouldn't move without being powered over 50%) and they made a horrible screeching sound over 75% speed
     
  7. David Beale

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    Well the R4 arrived on Friday - but the fan's and other accessories did not? Shipped separately I guess?

    Anyway, transferred my existing components into the R4. Love the build quality and cable management. Lots of room inside, given I'm only using two of the HD trays I can remove the upper cage if I want to - did take advantage of turning it 90° to improve air flow from the front intake fans. The HD cage and trays themselves are very nice. Took advantage of the mounting holes to put my two SSD's on the backside of the mobo tray. I must say that is a bit odd, you'd only want to do this with original build as you can only do this when the motherboard is not in the case. Worked for this inital build. Won't ever likely remove them. I'm glad I did't get the XL R2 it would have been too big and I would have had to buy power cable extensions - my Antec 620m's power cable was long enough in the R4 with enough length to work with.

    Moved the back 140mm fan that came with the case to the front and paired it with the other one for two 140 intakes. Added my existing fans to the case - two 120 on top, one at the back and one on the bottom. These four are controlled by ASUS fan xpert on my motherboard. It works just fine, even reads three pin rpm's. Two of the fans are connected to one three pin port with a Y cable. I guess the software is only reading the RPM from one of the fans but both are functional. When I get my new CM R4's I'm expecting that they will operate at close to the same RPM so that should not be a big issue. Anyway, even though I accidentally broke off one of the fan fins (note to self keep fingers out of moving fan), but it seems to run just fine without that one blade - I thought it would wobble because it would be out of balance but it seems just fine sans one blade. I'm thinking that the top exhaust fans could also be LED'd and although I have mounted two 120's there I think 140's would look better and move more air.

    Couple of "wish they did this better" didn't likes. The filter on the bottom is a good idea and glad it is there but the way it slides in is very awkward even when the case was up on the work table. I will need to tip the case over to put it back in, certainly no deal breaker but sliding it in from the side would be a big improvement without any extra cost. The front filter is a breeze. Speaking of the front - when I pull the case out from under the desk I found the only real grip point was the bottom of the front of the case - trouble is that is where the release for the front bezel so I've pulled the front cover off of the case a couple of times by mistake. I fixed this by mounting four casters on a 9"x20" bit of plywood now my case is on wheels. Given it's weight this make getting to the back of the case easy. I also found the way the side's attach to be less than wonderful. My old cheapo case was easy, press on a release built into the side of the case and it came off very nicely. This one is the old fashioned slide in and screw in. Maybe that's somehow better and stronger, maybe because it makes for a tighter seal for better sound proofing and keeps the dust out better? I also wished F.D. had take a page from Antec on the 270° swing on their door and Bitfenix's idea of a door that you can change to swing left or right. I'd rather the door swung the other way - but frankly how often do I need to access my DVD drives anyway?

    My complaints are minor.

    I love the minimalist look - glad I went with that over the more flashy Cooler Master cases I was looking at. Now to clean up the rat's nest of cables under my desk - be a shame to light up that mess eh?



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    That is a thing of beauty.
     
  9. David Beale

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    I decided to go for a pair of Bitfenix Spectre (regular not pro) red LED 140's for the top of the rig. I broke one of the fan blades on one of the 120's I have up there now. Still seems to be working OK but I think once the balance is off it will wear out fast - besides I want it glowing red :) . From what I could read the regular Spectre's will do the job well enough, they did get good reviews before the "pro's" came out. That will give me six red LED fans - I'll be putting the sound proofing capacity of this case to the test.

    With Memory Express's uber price match I'm getting them for about $9.00 each or half of the price of the Pro's - from what I could read the Pro enhancements are not worth twice the price.
     
  10. David Beale

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    Well after lots of research and reviewing the great Gigabyte HD 7970 the OC version. I'm out of town for a while so won't be home to install it or try it out until I get home.
     
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    Got it installed and so far so good, runs well and looks good.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Good choice. And with the 7970 on the way out no doubt you got a good deal on it too :p
     
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    $275 before a $30 MIR ~ never count on those until I have it in my own hands.
     
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    Have the same problem here. Have Zalman Z-Machine GT 1000 and got R9 290 from Sapphire. It's 305mm lenght, but luckily my lower hdd rack is removable, so it seems I will not have any troubles when upgrading.
     
  15. BL8kes_7

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    Great info guys
     
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    this is a great thread!thanks for the info! having an idea how should i buy my case for my new rig
     

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